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Crossing the line

SPECIAL REPORT • An LOPD officer’s actions in 1992 cast a dark shadow on the department

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She said retaining Wrisley on the Lake Oswego Police Department opens the department to liability, invites future problems and sets a bad example for younger officers in the department. Harrington said Wrisley also should not be trusted to handle sensitive cases involving women.

Wrisley has not responded to requests for follow-up interviews since documents from the sheriff’s office investigation were released to this newspaper.

‘I couldn’t get away’

Everyone agrees on a few things. Everyone agrees that on Dec. 10, 1992, both Wrisley and Vandagriff volunteered at a conference of the Oregon Narcotics Enforce-ment Association. Vandagriff tended bar while Wrisley sold raffle tickets.

It’s also agreed that the day after the conference, Wrisley placed a call to Vandagriff and asked for her address while she was at home and babysitting two small children. She had won a sweatshirt in the raffle, he said, and he wanted to deliver it. Vandagriff said she had no qualms about the visit, and immediately phoned Brenda Noble, an evidence technician in the Beaverton Police Department.

According to police reports, the two women were best friends at the time and talked several times a day. They were acquainted partly through Vandagriff’s lengthy career as a 9-1-1 dispatch operator, which included five years with the Washington County Consolidated Communications Agency, which handles 9-1-1 calls in the county, some of that time as a manager.

In the phone call, Vandagriff taunted Noble about the winning ticket, according to police reports. She was still on the telephone when Wrisley came to the door.

“I said, ‘Well call me when he leaves,’ ” Noble said, according to a transcribed interview with Oregon State Police Detective Ken Janes.

But the call never came. When Noble called back 20 minutes later, Wrisley was still there, according to Noble’s account to police.

“I said, ‘What are you doing?’ And she goes, ‘Oh, just visiting.’ And I said, ‘Is he still there?’ And she said yes. And I said, ‘Is he flirting?’ And she said yes. And I said, ‘Well just tell him to get out and leave you alone.’ And she said ‘I’ll call you later.’… Her tone of voice back to me was, ‘Yes, I wish he would leave, but I’m trying to be polite.’ ”

By the time Vandagriff returned Noble’s phone call, her demeanor would be radically changed, according to Noble’s statements. But what happened in between would be the subject of a four-month investigation by the Oregon State Police.

Vandagriff and Wrisley both said they sat in her kitchen and talked. Nearly every detail of the conversation was reported similarly by each. They said Wrisley asked whether her home had an upstairs crawl space – he had once served a search warrant on a similar home – and Vandagriff showed Wrisley the upstairs of her home and the crawl space located in an upstairs bedroom.

But each would offer differing versions of other events alleged to have occurred in the bedroom.

In her version of the story, Vandagriff told police that Wrisley blocked her exit from the bedroom, then grabbed her by the shoulders and kissed her. She said she pushed him away, but Wrisley tried to unbutton the top of her pants.

In a transcribed interview with Janes, Vandagriff said she told Wrisley, “I don’t think so,” as his advances continued.

She said she walked to a window to check for the school bus and told him she was expecting her children soon and that he should stop.

She said Wrisley followed her to the window, closed the blinds, and pushed her with his body onto the bed. While she tried to remain sitting, Vandagriff said Wrisley climbed on top of her until she fell back onto the bed.

She told Janes, “… he kept trying to push me back and I kept saying my kids are due home, this isn’t a good time, this doesn’t feel right and he kept persisting and he kept pushing me … after I told him ‘no’ and he continued, then I got scared because I told him ‘no’ enough that he should have backed off and he wasn’t backing off.”

Vandagriff said Wrisley pulled her shirt up, fondled her breasts and put his mouth on her breasts. She said she repeatedly tried to turn away from him and pulled her shirt down. When she did, she said, Wrisley grabbed one of her hands and forced it onto his crotch. When she removed it, she said he again tried several times to unbutton her pants.

“The next thing I knew he had his pants undone and he was trying to put his penis in my mouth. And that’s when I clenched my mouth and I kept turning my head back and forth … by then I was getting scared … ’cause I couldn’t get away.”

Vandagriff said she was able to shove Wrisley off balance by lifting a hip. She said she continued to tell him no and he slowly began to let her off the bed.

Wrisley would later refute Vandagriff’s claims, saying he never touched her, “not even a handshake.”

When he learned that Vandagriff had called the police, he first refused to talk to state detective Janes. Several months later, he spoke to Janes with a lawyer present and said he was shocked at Vandagriff’s claims.

“I thought it was a joke,” he said. “I thought, ‘What’s going on here?’... I didn’t know for quite a while what the allegations were other than the actual legal terms.”

In his version of events, Wrisley described Vandagriff as “unstable,” said she repeatedly brought up sex while he was in her home and made him uncomfortable by talking about the sexual adventures of police officers they knew.

Wrisley told the detective he thought Vandagriff was making false allegations to get money from the county. She was unemployed at the time, a single mother at home with a then-13-year-old son and disabled twins, then 11.

Investigation backs claims

Documents show that on the afternoon of Dec. 11, 1992, Noble first spoke with a Beaverton Police sergeant.

In recounting the details for Janes, the state police detective, she said Vandagriff did return her phone call after Wrisley left her home. When Noble called back a few minutes later, she first asked Vandagriff how the visit went.

“And she said, ‘It was really ugly, Brenda, really bad, real ugly.’ And I’m going, ‘Kay what was ugly? What was wrong?’ And she just told me what happened and, you know, I was pretty much shocked. … Her voice was shaking when she was telling me that it was, you know, really ugly, and I know Kay inside and out and I knew that there was something (that) wasn’t real pleasant.”

“She said, ‘I don’t know what to do.’ She said, ‘I just got to forget this,’” said Noble. “I said, ‘Kay, this sounds like attempted rape, I don’t think you should just be forgetting it.’ She said, ‘I don’t want to.’ She made reference to getting a cop in trouble … and if she said anything that other cops would look down on her.”

After talking with the Beaverton sergeant, Noble convinced Vandagriff to call Wrisley’s sergeant, Kevin Henderson “just (to) let him know that he is a jerk and you’d better keep an eye on him.”

Henderson initiated the Oregon State Police investigation at 5:20 p.m. that day. Four months later, a grand jury decided not to indict Wrisley on charges of attempted rape, attempted sodomy, sex abuse and official misconduct.

However, the internal investigation by the sheriff’s office, – conducted by lieutenants Gary Self and Rob Gordon, now sheriff of Washington County – relied on several key details that may or may not have been available to a grand jury in the closed-door process that determined criminal charges.

The investigation found:

• Wrisley initially refused to answer questions from investigating officers but produced a duty notebook detailing his actions Dec. 11, 1992. The notebook’s entries were later compared with a year of Wrisley’s duty notebooks and found to be phony.

• Vandagriff agreed to take a polygraph examination about the incident and passed it. However, polygraph examinations are inadmissible in court in Oregon.

• Though Wrisley claimed that he had briefed his sergeant prior to delivering the sweatshirt to Vandagriff’s house, the sergeant, Henderson, said Wrisley’s story was untrue. He denied knowing that Wrisley went to Vandagriff’s house, leading investigators to conclude that Wrisley was absent from duty at the time of the incident.

• During the state police examination, detectives became aware of a similar incident involving a woman who worked for the Washington County District Attorney’s Office, who once went on a date with Wrisley.

The woman complained that Wrisley made aggressive sexual advances and that she struggled to get him to stop touching her after she halted consensual petting with him while on a date. Her complaints would not have been admissible in a grand jury because she never called the police.

Cleared, but fired

By the time a grand jury opted not to indict Wrisley on April 15, 1993, he had already been fired from the sheriff’s office. But his fight to return to work – spelled out in a typical union contract that called for grievance hearings and arbitration – would drag on for another eight months.

Through two rounds of grievance hearings, then-sheriff Jim Spinden would stick to his decision to fire Wrisley and send pointed letters to Wrisley emphasizing his reasons for the decision.

In one such letter, he noted, “In light of the need for the complainant to proceed through the difficulty of presenting the complaint subject to efforts to discredit her and with no personal advantage or motive in pursuing the claim, I believe her statements are credible.”

Spinden also wrote to the county administrator about his decision, specifically noting that Wrisley’s duty notebooks had “changed dramatically in style” during the Vandagriff episode.

Washington County’s attorney John Junkin, however, eventually offered Wrisley a deal to end his employment: $20,000, a letter of recommendation and a settlement that sealed the investigation.

Wrisley signed the deal Dec. 6, 1993.

Though Spinden would also sign, he privately fumed. Through a memo written by Gordon, the investigator and lieutenant, Spinden had previously documented his complaints about the attorney handling the case and what he perceived as missteps in the process to fire Wrisley. According to the memo, Spinden expected the process “to hurt us in the future, if not this case, then in another.”

Though Spinden could not be reached for comment for this story, Gordon stood by the sheriff’s office investigation.

“In the 15 years since the investigation, I have not received any information that would change any of the findings in the reports and I stand by any of the written documents in the file,” he said.

Wrisley, when interviewed for this story, said he signed an agreement to seal the file because the sheriff’s office wanted him to. He said he agreed to resign only because he got a better offer from Lake Oswego.

“There’s no doubt in my mind I would have gone back to work,” said Wrisley. “With that situation, I didn’t want to go back to work there.”

“I quit there to come and work here (in Lake Oswego), that’s how it ended,” he said.

Though officers throughout the law enforcement community were talking about the Vandagriff incident, Wrisley’s career would be salvaged with help from Timeus, now head of the West Linn Police Department, and Duncan, now Lake Oswego’s police chief.

On May 28: ‘Cocaine Cowboys’ avoid scrutiny.

Nick Budnick, a former Pamplin Media Group reporter, contributed some initial reporting for this story.

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Re: Crossing the line

If, after reading this story you arent completely sick to your stomach, there is something wrong with you. This is a perfect example of police corruption and misconduct that has been allowed to thrive in both departments for years. Both Dan Duncan and Terry Timeus stand behind Darryl Wrisley because they haven't seen any behavior similar to that alleged since 1992? What about Wrisley's arrest in 2000 for assaulting his wife and drunk driving? This was witnessed by off duty police officers and occurred while he was a Lake Oswego Police Officer. The matter was quickly silenced and Wrisley was fired - the second time from a law enforcement agency, but again allowed to keep his badge. Does anybody see something wrong here? People who are sexual deviants don't typically change over time and allowing them to continue to be police officers is beyond appalling. How can Chief Dan Duncan justify promoting Wrisley twice after all of this misconduct? I suppose Duncan and Timeus have no choice but to "stand behind" Wrisley in light of his misconduct because after all, Timeus got him a job at LOPD and Duncan promoted him, all while knowing his sullied past. Wrisley says he got a better offer from Lake Oswego PD and that is why he left. The truth is, Timeus got Wrisley a job as a dog catcher at LOPD. How is that a better offer than a Sheriff's Deputy who was on the SWAT team at Washington County? Wrisley was protected by Timeus and allowed to thrive and supervise other officers under both Timeus and Duncan. How does this happen in a police department?

DPSST will never be able to justify how Wrisley continues to keep his police certification with the state. This is a very disturbing theme occurring all too often in law enforcement agencies across Oregon.

This just goes to show, no matter how hard you try to keep your past silent and hidden, it eventually always comes out and back to haunt you.

Kudos to the Review/Tidings staff and Lee Vander Voo who exposed this story and more to come. I have a feeling we have only scratched the surface.....


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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:29 PM

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I am certainly not condoning what Lt. Wrisley did, but what I don't understand is why this has even become an issue?? This incident was nearly 20 years ago, why now are you people trying to ruin his life by opening up a healed wound? As a "writer" for The Review, who are you to "expose" him? Do you honestly think that, by writing this article, you will make a difference in the justice system? Please! You are only causing unnecessary drama! Why don't you publish some real news.


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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 03:50 PM

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I think it is useful information. A lot of the players in this drama are still around, including the current police chiefs of Lake Oswego & West Linn. Surely you don't think that the actions,behaviors & cover-ups described in the article were anomalies & are not indicative of beliefs & mentality that might still be around in these departments today?


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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 04:25 PM

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This wound obviously hasn't healed for everyobdy, except maybe Wrisley with his nice career, a great paycheck and friends who look out for him. But if his life is ruined, as anonymous implies it could be, then it would be because of his own actions, wouldn't it?


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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 05:14 PM

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Why it has become an issue?? Are you serious?? This man is a police officer and carries a gun!! I would say it is a very serious issue!! Not just the issue of the attempted rape and sodomy while on duty as a Sheriff's Deputy, but the cover up by the police and good ole' boy slap on the back mentality that allowed this kind of person to thrive in law enforcement!! The story also says he was arrested in 2000 for assault and drunk driving while he was a Lake Oswego cop!! Were those crimes committed on duty too?? Why wasn't the public told about this?? How has this man kept his job and keep getting promoted?? There are so many unanswered questions to this story. This is absolutely disgusting and repulsive. I guess now we know what types of conduct are acceptable if you are a cop in LO. Then again, it sounds like that depends on who you are friends with.....


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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 05:52 PM

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This behavior seems common for a number of law enforcement agencies across the nation.


"Harry J. Williby"

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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 06:12 PM

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Things like this really make me upset. First of all - Police officers and higher ranking officials must be held to a higher standard, or, at the very least, a standard that they require from the citizens! Second, these gentleman - work for the public. We, as tax payers are responsible for making sure they're paid, that they have benefits, severance packages, retirement, paid leave and many other benefits that most regular jobs don't have... The Lake Oswego Police force consists of over 60 officers, with 45 on regular duty - they can spare a termination of a sexual predator/DUI convict/wife beater. I am completely repulsed that a rapist was given $20,000 basically to keep quiet! Their jobs should NOT be so hard to terminate - I mean, if a teacher, paid by the state - raped someone or intentionally went against everything they've been trained to do would they get an extra $20k? I don't think so.

Unfortunately Timeus and Wrisley make ALL the West Linn and Lake Oswego police departments look bad and makes the public judge them the same way they judge certain demographics. Perhaps this will encourage the Departments to start practicing what they preach and be safe - perhaps not hand out MIPs or tickets for having a light out of license plate that fell off. We all know that they will be asking for some forgiveness too.

I own a local business and we have been financially supportive of the police department - given what poor judgement Timeus has made and I can guarentee that we will no longer support the Department. How dare they ask us to vote three times for a police levy under the management of a hypocrite!

I'm looking forward to hearing what others have to say -I think a public apology on both individuals parts would be appropriate.

"Lake Oswego native and West Linn Resident"

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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 06:54 PM

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i cant believe anyone saying this is a non issue this is a HUGE issue....i dont trust the police here at all, and now i feel even more so.....these guys should resign or be fired. as far as opening his wounds? oh please, im sorry to Kay Williams......i dont know what to tell my teenage daughter about openng the door for the police in the event of an emergency......


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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 08:08 PM

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Per Wrisley's words, she (complainant) was unstable and would always bring up sex when he was around her and would talk about sexual adventures she had with other police officers they knew. If this was the case, why did Wrisley put himself in a position to be alone with her in her home where these allegations could be made? What poor judgement on Wrisley's part. That is why she is more credible than Wrisley because no cop in his right mind would willingly place himself in a position like that with a supposedly "unstable" person who could make an allegation like that. This allegation also carries much more weight considering that Wrisley was arrested again in 2000 for assault on his wife. This seems to be a dangerous pattern of violent behavior that the Lake Oswego Police apparently feel acceptable to expose their citizens too. This is a huge slap in the face to the citizens of LO and the only remedy to this would be for Wrisley to resign his position as a police officer with the Lake Oswego Police Department. He obviously lacks the moral fitness required by law to be a police officer and if he does not resign, he will continue to bring shame and discredit onto the Lake Oswego Police Department and the City of Lake Oswego.

"Very concerned LO resident"

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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 09:34 PM

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This person and his two friends should not be in law enforcement, period! However, a lot of people here are guilty of judging and stereotyping ALL police officers because of a few bad apples, and it's dissapointing. Most, 99%, of officers are in this job for the right reason and are outstanding, law abiding citizens. They are the ones willing to put their lives on the line to help the public, even those of YOU in this forum who stereotype them with generalizations and hate speech. How many of you making hateful comments here would help them if they made hateful generalization about you like this? Probably none, but they would still do it for you!

Read this story well and you will see that the good side of Law Enforcement tried to get him out and fired. However, it was ATTORNEYS not police officers that gave him this great deal. So blame the county attorney, not all law enforcement. The Sheriff wanted him FIRED!

I am sure any of us can go into another's neighborhood and find some fine criminals that your neighbors stood up for. So does this make you and your neighborhood a bunch of criminals? NO! Because that would be generalizing and stereotyping you and everyone in your neigborhood because of a few criminals in it. So don't beat up the good officers out there who are doing the right thing with hateful generalizations that are not true.

As for corruption? Again, it was the lawyers who gave him this deal, not the Sheriff and the investigators who wanted him fired. How about saying the county and its lawyers are corrupt instead. Once again lawyers are making our country go in the toilet by being sly and making it look like it was the police. Put the blame where it belongs, on the county lawyers and the bone heads working at LO who hired him knowing his past.

With that, DPSST needs to look into this and clean out the trash for, "fool me once shame on me, fool me twice shame on you!"

"Don't Hate the Good"

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Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:59 PM

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This is ridiculous! The City of LO has invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in Wrisley. You cannot just fire him! I agree with a demotion and reassignment as punishment since, once again, he was never charged with a crime and was actually paid good money and given a letter of recommendation when he resigned from Washington County but did raise some concerns that may be hard to recover from. I think he should be used as one of those cops that stands in the intersection directing traffic and assisting with persons trying to cross the street. It would be cool and a little "retro" to add some flavor to downtown LO. Why throw away a perfectly good police officer when you could slap some white gloves on his hands, give him a whistle and have him work some cool dance moves into his traffic direction job! It would be cheaper than hiring another new cop who won't know what they're doing for at least three years!!!!

"I think outside the box"

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Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:44 AM

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Nothing like being tried in the mass media after being cleared by a grand jury.

If I believed stuff I read in this paper, the story would be disturbing. However ...


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Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM

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What goes around comes around! Isn't there a saying about not throwing rocks when you live in a glass house?

"Can't wait till next Thursday"

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Fri, May 22, 2009 at 02:34 PM

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To "I think outside the box": I think you missed the point of the article, which is that it is very likely the only reason Wrisley still has a job, & promotions to boot, is because of a still lingering police department mentality that the boys in blue protect their own. That his misdeeds might have been minimized, swept under the rug, passed along with him to other departments etc, all because of his friendships with cops in high places, is what's under discussion here. Who cares how much money anyone has invested in him! If he has the integrity & morality of garbage, he should be treated like it.


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Fri, May 22, 2009 at 02:58 PM

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We should never have laws, police policies, and union contracts that allow an officer to continue holding such a position of power after it has been determined that the officer engaged in criminal behavior.

Local governments repeatedly sign police union contracts that allow the police too much power and prevent meaningful police accountability measures. Non-police citizens and police review boards need to be present during contract renewal negotiations since the local leaders are typically too cowardly to curb the police union's power.

Laws should not be one way for civilians and another for police officers. If anything, officers should be held to a higher standard since the public trusts them with weaponry and training to use force while enforcing the law. That's a lot of power to place in the wrong hands.

This type of situation is also the result of laws & rules made by police officers in the Oregon legislature. We need balance in the legislature, not the perspective of people used to having too much power.


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Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:52 PM

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Does this knock Wrisley out of the running for Captain?


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Fri, May 22, 2009 at 08:43 PM

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"This type of situation is also the result of laws & rules made by police officers in the Oregon legislature. We need balance in the legislature, not the perspective of people used to having too much power"

Uh, how about lawyers in the Oregon Legislature. GO LAWYERS! YEE HAW! GET SOME!!!! (Money that is)

"Officer Wrisley stopped me one day and gave me a warning, he's nice."

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Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:45 PM

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I think what is not shown in this article is the multiple sources that the reporter get's his information from. It just so happens to be a group of the very broken toys that were terminated for conducts unbecoming and hoping to bring malice upon the people mentioned in this article. Did Officer Wrisley cross the line? Not according to a grand jury, which is a group of citizens such as you and I. The assault and DUI charges were a result of conflicts we all face at some point in time in our lives if you're or have ever been in a relationship. If you dig deep enough I think everyone of us have some dark past that was probably lacking in better judgement, especialy in LO. Get all the information before you hang the "good ol' boys" out to dry. The media has never put a spin on articles that sell papers.

"Not one of the sheep."

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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:21 AM

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"I think what is not shown in this article is the multiple sources that the reporter get's his information from. It just so happens to be a group of the very broken toys that were terminated for conducts unbecoming........"

So there was more of them? FOR CRYIN" OUT LOUD!!! WHAT IN THE HECK IS GOING ON AT THE LOPD?!?! I can't wait to hear what they did, hopefully that will be covered in part four...hopefully it has a jazzy title like "Broken Toys Make Some Noise"

"I'll call the fire department from now on thank you very much!!!!"

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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:57 AM

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To "Not one of the sheep:" Pretty presumptuous to call all of the reporter's sources "broken toys." I was not/have not been terminated for any conduct unbecoming & I doubt there is even 1 person in law enforcement that I have ever worked with that would call me that. There are those of us who know Wrisley and were never treated badly by him, never had axes to grind or issues with him, but still see the injustice in what he got away with. For you to defend his actions & even imply that it's ok because we all have "some dark past" is extremely insulting to those of us who go to work everyday, do a damn fine job & never show the poor judgment that he did. Your attitude indicates that you are more likely a broken toy, just like Wrisley.


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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 09:16 AM

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I was wondering when the LOPD officer buddies of Wrisley would be on here blindly defending him. Let's just keep a few things in mind. Just because the grand jury failed to indict Wrisley on attempted rape and sodomy charges doesn't mean they didn't happen.

I am married and I have never assaulted my wife or been arrested for drunk driving, so the justification that at some point our "dark past lacking in better judgement" comes out doesn't fly, especially when you are a law enforcement officer. Being charged with multiple sex crimes and being lucky enough that the DA was able to convince some people not to ruin a cops career doesn't mean you are innocent or should remain a police officer and surprisingly - get promoted twice after your second arrest for similar conduct! The point here is, if Wrisley didn't have the friends that he did - Terry Timeus and Dan Duncan, he would not be a police officer today. Had Wrisley not been arrested in 2000 for similar crimes while he was a Lake Oswego Police Officer, one could argue that the accusation of attempted rape and sodomy while on duty was an isolated incident, and Wrisley was a changed man since he got a second chance and was spared from becoming a convicted felon and sex offender. However, once a person develops a pattern of violent criminal behavior that was documented and witnessed by other police officers, it tends to mean that the person has serious issues and problems. Usually people who have violent tendencies toward women do not stop their behavior until some sort of outside intervention like incarceration or serious professional counseling. Former Portland Police Chief Penny Harrington is right, Wrisley is a liability to the Lake Oswego Police Department and "there is no excuse for keeping a man who is violent on your police force." The truth hurts and sometimes we don't like what we hear or read, especially when we thought nobody would find out because it was buried forever sealed in a file cabinet in Washington County, but it is what it is and trying to minimize it or blame others for exposing it will not justify or excuse Wrisley's documented criminal conduct.


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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM

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Now there's a scary thought, that Wrisley gets promoted to Captain and is one step away from being Lake Oswego's top cop. Wonder how much input Chief Duncan will have in the selection of his predecessor. After this article I can only hope that it's NONE.

"not a good ol boy"

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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:49 PM

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Can the FBI be called in to investigate since it looks like everyone involved is corrupt?

The poster that says "I'll now call the Fire Department" here's a news flash! They're out on faked disability claims. Good Luck.


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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 03:46 PM

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I'm not going to defend the lieutenant's behavior, but these men and women -- who deal everyday with the people most of us want nothing to do with -- are human. "We" want to second guess every decision they make and we expect "perfection." And don't use the "color of authority" line because the authority of a police officer just doesn’t rise to the level of authority for the president of the United States and we all know how well President Clinton respected women and yet everybody jumped to his defense.

Is it possible – even slightly possible – that the female came on the officer, the officer stupidly took advantage of the advance and then she claimed fowl? Not saying that’s the case, but is that possible? Usually, the DA will take any act by a police officer that has the slightest hint of a crime to the grand jury. They’ll take a cop there faster than anyone else because they don’t want to be accused of a cover up. So is it possible that there really was no evidence of a crime and that’s why the grand jury didn’t issue an indictment or were they part of the cover up too?

When you wallow in the type of crap cops wallow in all day – and night – long, sometimes some of it sticks. Sometimes cops react to stress like the rest of us. And sometimes cops do stupid things. Given the huge financial investment a city has in each and every police officer, getting them help might be better for everybody than throwing them out and starting all over.

The drunk driving incident was well documented in the newspaper when it happened – almost a decade ago. Doesn’t this being dug back up now reek a bit of sour grapes by someone who just wants to embarrass these officers? Maybe someone who was passed up for promotion?

"Irving, Lake Oswego resident"

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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 05:10 PM

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Dale glad to see you could make it to the party. Put down the drink.

Anyone wonder why this LO Review "hot" news story is only in the LO Review? Wonder no more, no one else wanted it. If memory serves me the Review did a story on Wrisley a few years ago on the great job he was doing. Which is it?

And we're all broken toys it's just to what degree, oh except for "anon" because he is perfect in his own mind.

"RC" i'm not an LOPD and seriously doubt they would hire me. But I could ask the Chiefs Timeus and Duncan and maybe they would make an exception since you think they're on the take. Then again Retired Chief Les Youngbar must have been in on it too since he would have been top cop at the time and was fully aware of his staff. Conspiracy Theory in the making, it could be called "Hooterville Coverup"!

""Hooterville Coverup" formerly "Not one of the sheep.""

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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 05:45 PM

Stop with the excuses.

What I find most alarming is that West Linn used taxpayer money to conduct an investigation, came up with some excuse to look the other way, and didn't bother to let anyone know what was going on.

By reading the comments, I can see outrage and I can see apologists. The outrage I understand. The apologists are willing to look the other way. Just like West Linn.

Why should West Linn keep getting all of Lake Oswego's rejects, misfits and trash? Why should anyone have to listen to a bunch of LO enablers? Isn't our City Manager from LO? Why not come clean with the findings?

Even worse, some police officers in West Linn are a little overzealous cruising around the City. And let's not talk about the many women who have themselves been threatened and harassed by City Police.

Two weeks ago, I saw two policemen tow away a fathers car in the presence of his 6 year old daughter. The cops took the car away with a tow truck, stranding the father and daughter over a mile away from their home. The cops left the father and daughter at the store without even offering them a lift. Another citizen stepped up to drive them home.

West Linn is small enough to demand better police civility. Timeus runs his force as if under military rule and sends armed officers to intimidate the public at city run public events. And the City seems to be ok with that.

First embezzlement, now alleged police misconduct. Our City needs a honest broker, not an enabler. And I am happy Irving is not my neighbor.

"Samantha from West Linn"

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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 06:23 PM


Hey Not one,

Is that some pent up anger I'm reading here? Is that a chip on your shoulder?

What is your point? Are all WL police as mixed up as you? Get help please. We will all be much better off!

"You're a sheep, all right"

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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 06:33 PM

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People who want to excuse bad behavior & say everybody makes mistakes & that the crap officers encounter will eventually stick forget that the VAST MAJORITY of cops are out there everyday "wallowing" in it & they NEVER get into the crap Wrisley got into. So why should the tax-paying public put up with it?


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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 08:07 PM

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I wonder if any of Wrisley's buddy superiors ever ordered or advised him to get help. Cops with issues anger management issues, addictions, alcoholism, etc., whether on or off-duty have access to an array of taxpayer-funded services. Sadly, though, my guess would be no.


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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 08:58 PM

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Hey samantha from west linn, do you know why the popo towed that car away? probably because the baby daddy shouldn't have been driving. In your world a six year old in a car must give someone a special pass to drive around withou a license or insurance. I like your world.

"another oregon trail card holder."

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Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:55 PM

The police are a gang


1.Are prone to sudden, extreme violence

2.Look out for their own above all others

3.Will lie as it suits them

4.Have their own colors and signals

5.Only associate with their own

6.Seize property for their own profit

7.Answer to no one for their behavior

"A gang is defined as: a number of individuals banned together as an independent entity, who are recognized by the community as such, and as a result of said affiliation, participate in criminal activity."

Sounds like the citizenry may need an anti-gang unit of their own ;)

"Notorious Kelly"

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Sun, May 24, 2009 at 07:33 AM

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Dear Hooterville Coverup,

I can come to the party but not have a drink? Surely you jest.


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Sun, May 24, 2009 at 08:31 AM

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To:""Hooterville Coverup" formerly "Not one of the sheep.""...the article IS on the cover of the Portland Tribune also:(

"Anti Anon"

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Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:36 AM

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Dear Oregon Trail cardholder,

What ever happened to community policing and empathy for the very citizens the police are sworn to protect?

You expect me to have empathy for a rapist? Let alone a public servant who used the valued trust of his profession to physically and mentally intimidate a woman in her own home?

Thank you for clarifying your perspective. You self wallowing, public hating hypocrites and the captains and chiefs that tolerate this behavior should leave. I will pray for you.

The price of doubt and fear is too high.


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Sun, May 24, 2009 at 12:12 PM

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Kudos to this newspaper for digging and reporting.

For years and years, the police departments of West Linn, Oregon City and Lake Oswego dealt with their violent cops by trading them around to each other, not unlike the "pass the trash" approach used by school districts to cover up the actions of teachers who got touchy-feely with kiddies in a perverted way.

Perhaps what is needed, is recruitment of new WLPD and LOPD chiefs -- from far outside the area.

Chiefs Timeus and Duncan are public figures entrusted with the safety of more than 100,000 people. If they choose not to respond to this expose, or cannot adequately explain their actions, they both should resign. That the conduct in question occurred in 1992 only makes this more compelling, because it compels one to seek investigation of what has transpired in the intervening 17 years that otherwise may not come to light until the next decade.

As others have noted here, both departments already suffer from a great deal of public mistrust resulting from the overzealous, often unconstitutional acts of a minority of officers in their respective employ.

In the case of WLPD, Chief Timeus has done nothing to end the nightly WLPD practice of cruising Oregon City's streets instead of protecting West Linners. Worse, WLPD even mpounds and tows cars off of Oregon City streets, without even summoning OCPD, and forces the owner to pay money to WLPD and to litigate release of the car not in Oregon City's court, but in West Linn's court. This is blatantly unconstitutional (as is WLPD's car impoundment & inventory policy) but Chief Timeus keeps the scam going despite several tort claims being asserted against the city.

And recently it has come to light that Chief Timeus is tying up several officers in order for them to telephonically solicit alleged prostitutes from craigs list to come into West Linn so they can be arrested for alleged attempted crimes that would not exist in West Linn if the police did not manufacture them! (WLPD must wish it had officer Wrisley to work that detail!).

So there you have it...your police are bored and seemingly unconcerned about unsolved local crimes especially those allegedly committed by their own officers!). In that case, it must be time to lay a few of them off. How will Chief Timeus have any credibility to ever ask voters to approve another law enforcement levy?


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Sun, May 24, 2009 at 12:26 PM

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Timeus has no credibility anyway because he has precious little education & a brain to match. He probably got the idea for the craigslist stings from watching tv. Neither he nor Duncan are proactive or progressive. The LO & WL departments need to be brought into this century, but mutt & jeff are not the chiefs who will do that.


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Sun, May 24, 2009 at 05:17 PM

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Who hired these clowns to begin with? Watch the City do absolutely nothing about this but to stick with their plans and build a new police station for these bunch of phonies!

"WL Zorro"

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Sun, May 24, 2009 at 06:30 PM

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It is VERY obvious that Wrisley needs to resign this coming Tuesday morning or be fired, if this does not happen the City Manager should be fired and the mayor and Council recalled. The city of Lake Oswego needs to clean house in the LOPD and fire Chief Duncan NOW, as well as many of the others in leadership roles and some of the longtime officers as well. LO needs to bring in a chief and leadership from outside the area to clean up the department. There is only one word to describe the LOPD currently- CORRUPT!

It will be interesting if this series of articles will talk about how Duncan has encouraged his officer numerous times to commit civil rights violations by targeting minorities and the poor. Chief Timeus should be fired as well.

The FBI should come in and do a full investigation of the LOPD, they will be amazed at what they would find.


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Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:41 PM

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I'd like to see a story on the amount of racial complaints the LOPD has received. I myself was asked if I spoke english when I was stopped on Country Club Road. I wonder why the officer found it necessary to ask? There isn't one officer of color on the LOPD, does anyone find that troubling, or is it just me? It amazes me how racist this community really is.

"Not White In LO"

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 02:16 AM

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Do you think an adult who has a suspended license or no insurance should be allowed to drive a vehicle in your neighborhood just because they have a "six year old" in the vehicle? (I'm assuming this is why the vehicle was impounded and not because the police hate dads who drive with six year olds)

"Two weeks ago, I saw two policemen tow away a fathers car in the presence of his 6 year old daughter. The cops took the car away with a tow truck, stranding the father and daughter over a mile away from their home. The cops left the father and daughter at the store without even offering them a lift. Another citizen stepped up to drive them home"

The cops took the car away with a tow truck? are you serious? Did you expect they would drive it away to some unknown location, strip it, sell the parts and pocket the cash? probably. OMG! (oh my god) the father and six year old were "stranded" over a mile away from their house! A mile! if an adult man and six year cannot walk a mile, or over a mile, to their house then they have problems and should probably live in a community where public transit services or offered on every other block.

Thank goodness someone enabled the fathers behavior and gave him a ride home. No that's community policing.

"Not Passive Aggressive, Bi Polar or an Oregon Trail card holder."

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:52 AM

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From my observations I find this story quite believable.

I know certain officers in WLPD that target single women. They do special favors...bring things to them hoping it might be their lucky day. In their warped minds, it's a game, a fringe benefit of the job.

When those who are obligated to enforce the law find even the slightest methods to compromise it to their advantage, that is a very serious problem. It is a slippery slope. Once the simple compromise is allowed, it soon yields to a ticking time bomb.

West Linn is a pro police community. The citizens need absolute assurance our city is safe. This article sheds way too much doubt. The officers who do their job professionally, along with the citizens deserve better. Be totally above reproach or leave!

"WL Resident"

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:51 AM

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It's nice to see everyone who has been wronged by the police unite and show up on this board en masse but if you really want to show your displeasure, stop calling the police. Your silent protest will show the powers that be that you do not need police services and you can take care of things yourself. You live in Lake Oswego/West LInn, what will happen that you cannot deal with yourself? if someone runs a dog over in front of your house, go pick it up and wash the remains away with a garden hose, throw the carcass is the garbage. If there's a tag on the collar, be a man and drive it to the owners house, make sure you preface your introduction with "I didn't do this" then introduce yourself, apologize for their loss and offer a supportive hand/ear or hug. If a minority selling magazines comes to your door, don't answer it and yell "Go Away! I'm a scared white person and I have a gun and an itchy trigger finger!", if your neighbor is having a loud party at seven o'clock at nite walk next door and tell them, "Would you please turn the music down, my infant has a fever and just fell asleep". If they know you don't have kids, tell them it's your great grandmother. Everyone pretty much respects infants and great grandparents. If they still don't listen do something creative like post signs that read "FREE BOOZE and STRIPPERS" with arrows pointing at your neighbors house. If a crazy teenager is speeding through your neighborhood, yell profanities at them while waving a fist in the air or follow them home, knock on the door and speak with the parents in a calm polite tone requesting their child please drive in a respectful manner the next time he/she drives past your house "OR THEIR GONNA GET GARDEN RAKE THROUGH FRONT WINDSHIELD!!!" and make sure you wave your fist in the air for emphasis. If you leave your lap top in your unlocked car overnight and someone steals it, be a real American and just go buy a new one. Don't report it to the police. The fewer reports they take, the less crime stats there are for them to justify their positions. If you're at a bar hooping it up with your other 40 something year old buddys and someone punches you in the face, in LO or WL it's most likely going to be more of a slap, then either punch them back in the face or say "My wife slaps me harder than that, bee-otch!" and walk away laughing. I personnaly would moonwalk away just to rub it in. Again, don't call the police, be a man, walk outside after "the fight", have a smoke, puff your chest out and DO NOT wipe the blood off your face. The next day you can relive and embellish the incident and have something to talk about at work. When your co workers ask "what did the police do?" you can tell them something cool like "Police? I didn't need the police" or "Police? who knows! I was wasted and took off running when they came". It's time for all you malcontents to step up!!! and let this be your anthem, "I am a nightmare walkin' psychopath talking, king of my block just a suburbanite stalking, living life like a cracker, quick is my fuse, then dead as a deathpack, it's the colors I choose, pink or khaki cuz or blood, it jus' don't matter, suckas dive for their life when my airsoft scatters, we malcontents of LO will never die.....just multiply".

"(pass the) Il Duce"

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:56 AM

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To "Il Duce": Wow, are you off your meds or something? Your response was way out of proportion to the article, but you apparently needed to get it off your chest. Sounds like you are an overstressed cop or dispatcher. Most of the postings here just want the bad apples in the police departments to be gone. Not sure why anyone in their right mind would disagree with that.


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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:58 AM

IL DUCE in italian means ?

How come most the arguments supporting police leadership come across as vitriolic patter and aggressive self-aggrandizement? Shouldn't residents have a Police Department that people can trust? Why can't we have a Police department that is beyond reproach, or in the least, be an asset to the City? (Good luck trying to sell homes in West Linn now!)

Why should someone be labeled a 'malcontent' because they see a monster like Wrisley walk around scot-free? Obviously the police culture in LO and WL is completely out of whack. That fact that this was allowed to happen is even worse.

Maybe the Police who are bored to the point where they have to manufacture crimes should move to a larger City?

And who ever thought walking a 6 year old with groceries in tow after having your car confiscated for a minor infraction by the local police should refrain from public commentary. It is no surprise why that viewpoint doesn't come with a real name!

Who knows why the car was towed? But to have no compassion or empathy for a young father yet support am alleged misogynist or sexual opportunist is beyond comprehension. I have dealt with runaway dogs, dogs hit by cars, neighborhood drunk drivers, college kids racing down my street during the holidays, neighbors being too loud etc. all by myself. And I have resolved these issue without having to resort to threatening hand gestures. I think a Wrisley sympathizer like Il Duce becomes the problem in a small society like West Linn. Is the guy trying to be funny? Instead, Il Duce is a sad figure.

But who can forget an abused women being shot right in front of the police station? What do you say to the family that lost a loved one when police chased a drunken driver down Rosement Road that lost control and hit an innocent person head on? We should not be living in an irresponsible and unaccountable police state. WL and LO police sympathizers of these tactics should move to Idaho where they can join the LAPD that have already relocated there.

Undoubtedly, the WL Police still need a credible defense. But where is it?! If apologists and fascist leaning dolts are the only defense, them Timeus and his captains need to move on and terrorize another town. I am sure I, as well as others, will be better off without them.

"IL DUCE was hung, rightfully so"

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:42 AM

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Wow, italian fascists in support of the police! Go get 'em tiger. For you History buffs, a wikipedia search comes up with;

Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini, KSMOM GCTE (July 29, 1883, Varano di Costa, Predappio, Forlė, Italy – April 28, 1945, Giulino di Mezzegra, Italy) was an Italian politician who led the National Fascist Party and is credited with being one of the key figures in the creation of Fascism. He became the Prime Minister of Italy in 1922 and began using the title Il Duce by 1925. After 1936, his official title was "His Excellency Benito Mussolini, Head of Government, Duce of Fascism, and Founder of the Empire".[1] Mussolini also created and held the supreme military rank of First Marshal of the Empire along with King Victor Emmanuel III of Italy, which gave him and the King joint supreme control over the military of Italy. Mussolini remained in power until he was replaced in 1943; for a short period after this until his death he was the leader of the Italian Social Republic.

Mussolini was among the founders of Italian fascism, which included elements of nationalism, corporatism, national syndicalism, expansionism, social progress and anti-communism in combination with censorship of subversives and state propaganda. In the years following his creation of the fascist ideology, Mussolini influenced, or achieved admiration from, a wide variety of political figures.

So is it Timeus or Jordan who is the 21st century "Il Duce"?

"Is West Linn really a Police State but the Realtors left it off the brochure?"

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Re: Crossing the line

Dear Il Duce,

Don't you have somewhere you have to be...like Iraq, Afghanistan or South Central LA...


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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Re: Crossing the line

I have to give a little credit to The WL Tidings & LO Review. It is no secret they are in serious financial distress. Only a smart businessman would come up with an idea like printing this story in a 3 part series to sell more papers. In a recession/depression, anything goes!

"The Taxman"

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:51 PM

Re: Crossing the line

"Runaway dogs, dogs hit by cars, drunk drivers, kids racing down my street, neighbors too loud, bar fights", granted all issues of concern. II Duce, not to discount your sarcasm but it begs the question...who do we call for an attempted rape?

"20 yr. WL"

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 04:10 PM

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Does anyone read with comprehension? Where does it say that Il Duce is a supporter of anyone? It appears that Il Duce has offered some options for those persons who do not like the current state of police services. Plus I thought the "rhyme" was funny. Who knew the Pro death penalty, Anti Italian crowd was so tough.....Yikes.

From the Wikipedia read it doesn't really appear Mr. Mussolini was that bad. Unless of course your an anti fascist. I also heard he had a great sense of humor.

"I'm Irish, don't throw rocks at me!"

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 04:52 PM

Re: Crossing the line

So you guys/girls didn't think my comment was funny? You all probably thought Independence Day was one of the greatest films ever made.

(looking for the low brow crowd)

"Il Duce"

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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 06:08 PM

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This is great, I haven't seen this much activity on a message board since the elections. I for one think the post by Il Duce was hilarious. I have been an avid reader of the LO Review police blotter for several years and can see the inspiration. I am alos amazed at the hate and anger spewed against anyone who doesn't agree with the article or shows a hint of support to the POLICE. I know several police officers and know them to be pretty normal human beings. This article is about one particular person, two associates and a certain mindest that may be an issue in every police department. However, several people keep referring to THE LO POLICE and THE WEST LINN POLICE. I can hardly believe that every man and woman that works at these police departments support the alleged behavior or conduct the article address.


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Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:29 PM

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When I ran for council I was the only candidate that was critical of the LOPD. Since no one seemed to care about it at the time I figured everyone was fine with the corruption. If you want the LOPD to be held accountable then vote for council candidates that will hold them accountable. Since you all voted for council members that support the LOPD, and never hold them accountable or question their actions, then you shouldn't be suprised that this is happening.



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Tue, May 26, 2009 at 05:48 AM

Re: Crossing the line

Il Duce was hung and rightfully so -

Obviously you have a personal bone to pick with the police and it is obvious you are harboring rage towards them. What did the police have to do with the woman being shot in front of the police department? The police chased a drunk driver down Rosemont and the crashed and killed someone? please provide the facts as I am sure that if your statement is true there was surely a lawsuit that was won or settled out of court for the wrongdoing of the police. You and others have moved away from what this series is about and are painting an organization with a very broad brush. "vitriolic patter and aggressive self-aggrandizement"?!?!? Are you some sort of pre law wanna be? Do you even know what that means? Who uses words like that then is appalled that someone would label people like you a Malcontent.....


Dissatisfied with existing conditions.


A chronically dissatisfied person.

One who rebels against the established system: "immature malcontents who have long since sold out to conformity" (John M. Wilson).

Yeah, I pretty much think you are a Malcontent. This thread is getting dumber-er-er by the post.

"I went too Kolledge two"

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Tue, May 26, 2009 at 06:55 AM

Re: Crossing the line

"No behaviour resembling the incidents in 1992"...wtf does that mean. How many times do they need to see behaviour like that to know that he needs to be in prison. And the police wonder why we dont believe them when they testify, dont have respect for them when we are stopped by them, and in general think the thin blue line is alive and well and bluer than ever......its sickening.


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Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:44 AM

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"Instructed by the State to probe the matter West Linn hired an investigator who found little reason for concern."

Here's a idea: When a police office is accused of a crime why not hire SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT to INVESTIGATE?

Has the Governor died but won't lay down? Where is he?


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Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Re: Crossing the line

Thank you Il Duce! That was honestly the funniest thing I've read in a long time - I actually forwarded it to a couple other WL/LO natives who read and are familiar with the local police blotters.

There is definitely something to be said about what the police are for - safety, not to babysit! However, I wouldn't mind seeing Wrisley slip on some white gloves, practice some jazzy dance moves and direct traffic on the intersection of A and State. I just hope one of his assult victims doesn't happen to drive by :)

"I think Il Duce's comment was just what this article needed!"

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Tue, May 26, 2009 at 09:48 PM

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There's a reason why this story took so long to come out, partly because of this arrogant, aggressive and litigious air that Wrisley carries about him. He is dangerous, morally and ethically corrupt, and no matter what the chiefs of those departments think, he is not a "changed" man.

It would be nice if the citizens of Lake Oswego shared some of the above sentiments with their city council and demand that he be let go. If not for the embarassment to the city, how about for the pocketbooks of the tax payers that will pay the bill when the moral and unethical conduct rears its head yet again? (Or as the chief may tell you, its all been taken care of, hes a changed man...)

In any event, he'll probably sue the city. I hope the city manager these days doesnt have a personal relationship with him.

"fed up"

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Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:01 PM

Editorial response:

Last sentence is inappropriate

Re: Crossing the line

One last comment, Terry Timeus is an absolute professional. He knows the difference between wrong and right. What he did fifteen years ago as a newly appointed supervisor has absolutely no bearing on his leadership of the West Linn Police Department, an incredibly disfunctional agency for at least the past ten years. The tax payers of that town are lucky to have him at the helm.

I think its demeaning to mention a certain City of Lake Oswego employee in the same paragraph so I wont, and it's ashame the paper did.

Even though chiefs are not elected, Terry would have my vote in a heart beat. I just wanted the citizens of WL to know that they have a good person on the department...

"Fed up"

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Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:41 AM

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"Timeus helped Wrisley salvage his career after sexually assaulting a woman while on duty."

If Timeus is the standard of being "absolutely professional" like the poster above says how bad are the really unprofessional guys?


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Wed, May 27, 2009 at 07:38 AM

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Ok, I have had my laugh for the day because I think "Fed up" is Timeus's mom.. can't think of anyone else who knows him who would call him an absolute professional and say he knows the difference between right and wrong. Yeah don't we all....but some of us chose wrong anyway,don't we, boys?


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Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:04 AM

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I am dissapointed in all of the readers of this article. What happened to "Innocent until proven guilty"? The public is trashing Timeus and Duncan without any real evidence. What Wrisely has done 17-20 years ago has nothing to do with how Timeus and Duncan do their jobs today. Maybe before trashing someone you should wait for the true facts not beleive the "Inquire" like news paper.

"I Support LOPD & WLPD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:22 PM

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Well actually they trashed themselves, as anyone who knows them will tell you. And whether or not you believe a leopard can change it spots, the story is about possible righting a wrong, correcting a past injustice if it is shown that someone was given special treatment. Kinda like reading about former nazis and death camp comanders being brought to justice 50 years later. The lives they led in the intervening years don't erase what they did back then.


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Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:16 PM

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Lived here my whole life. This is TEXTBOOK and TYPICAL behavior for the pile of crap that is the LOPD. An accurate motto for the LOPD - "Make it up, snort it up, beat it up, sex it up and cover it up." If my wife, girlfriend, sister, mother or any other female acquaintence got pulled over by Whizzley I would tell them to not roll down the window, open or unlock the door until 2 more officers arrived with one being a female officer. Did some braindead moron say "healed wounds?" How do you know that Kay's wounds are healed? What a non-contributing zero you are. Crap like this has been going on in the LOPD in some form or another for decades. If the citizens of Lake Oswego and West Linn want anything done about this, then THEY will have to be the ones who show up at city council meetings and voice their concerns/demands, circulate recall petitions, protest, demand action, etc. That means putting forth an effort after work, on weekends and donating money. Put up or shut !

up. Don't like what Felon Whizzley did? DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Don't pull the Lake O 'head in the sand' approach on this one. I'd like to see this pile of crap out of our city along with a handful of other wastes of flesh (Potts, Storely, Duncan, Hunt) but nothing will happen without action. You can bet I will be at the next city council meeting and I will register to speak and simply ask what if anything is being done about removing Whizzley from the LOPD. I challenge you all to do the same. It's about time we get the police department that we deserve and that WE PAY FOR. Listen to the bell, Whizzley....it tolls for thee.

"The cure for the "Blue Flu""

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Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:30 PM

Re: Crossing the line

Like it or not, there's not a damn thing that can be done about it with the unions defending the cops jobs, no matter how bad the apple.


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Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:01 PM

"Blue Flu"

Let me guess, you are someone who thinks your beloved dogs can go wherever and do whatever, maybe a constitutionalist. Or maybe you have some pile of junk parked on the street and these officers actually enforced the city code that the tax paying citizens in LO voted into the code.

Try moving out of your mom or grandmothers home to Lents where you can do all the fun things that come with no rules or enforcement. The officers you mentioned, aside from one, are professionals and your post is a little too spiteful.

"fed up"

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Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Re: Crossing the line

Hey, where is the next part of the article? Cocain Cowboys? Did the police shut er down?

"Hank, ex-Lake Oswego resident"

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Thu, May 28, 2009 at 08:31 AM

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The police can't shut down articles... my guess is Pamplin was just trying to keep us on the edge of our seats begging for more "corruption" but like the night of prom this too was a let down.

I like how the Blue Flu cure (makes no sense by the way as it releates to your post) is concerned about his wife and his girlfriend... teach me the ways kind sir, I can't even get one.

"WLHS 09"

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Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:04 AM

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